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RfC: Apollo 11 anniversary and the Main Page[edit]

Please comment on the discussion at WT:TFA about the Main Page for 50th anniversary of Apollo 11. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 03:33, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Offensives usernames[edit]

Hello. I posted this suggestion to talk about the offensive usernames. I've recently seen that there are users with these usernames that are not blocked. The reason? Basically, they use these usernames that the administrators doesn't consider it offensive. If some of you search for name "Loli", there will be a lot of pornographic names. More than pornographic, these names are criminous, since they talk about pedophilia, because the word " Loli" means a young girl between 6 and 14 years old. I wish the administrators take more a look at these usernames, also the usernames that have the word "Lolicon" inserted in it. Thanks, 'anonymous user'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.233.122.1 (talk) 17:34, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Admins don't usually block accounts that violate the username policy if said account is inactive. If you see an active account with an inappropriate username, report it to usernames for administrator attention. CoolSkittle (talk) 21:12, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Policy Survey[edit]

A few weeks ago, I called up a survey of English Wikipedia users about community guidelines.
The survey is part of my research at the University of Cologne. It's now time to relax, but unfortunately the participation in English Wikipeida users isn't as high as I had hoped.
So if one or the other would take 5 minutes to answer the questions, it would be a great help.
Community Policy Survey
Thank you --UniKoln (talk) 16:59, 9 June 2019 (UTC) UniKoln

If Enwiki Could Shut Down or do anything else to Support the Protest in Hong Kong?[edit]

Since "The Fugitive Offenders and Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Legislation (Amendment) Bill" in Hong Kong submitted to Legislative Council (LegCo) without listening to the views of the public, I am here asking if the community in Enwiki to do anything to support Hong Kong. It will be a great help and attractable for global media.

Since the unexpected asking, I would like to ask if Wikipedia could be shut down for an hour, or longer if could. If it is impossible, could enwiki have any method else to give Hong Kong people a supportive message?


For people who don't know what the Bill is, let me do a brief please:

This Bill was submitted through the Hong Kong citizen murder case happened in Taiwan (Republic of China, ROC), both of the character are Hong Kong people, and try to extradite the murderer to Taiwan. I used to be a great idea until the LegCo parliamentary found out that it also makes China (People's Republic of China, PRC, or mainland) extradition possible without any human right protection or mainland judicial independence. Any people against PRC government may be prosecuted and extradited, since LegCo was removed from the ordinance of extradition review, and Hong Kong's Court was announced they cannot protect the extradited person's human rights in the other countries.

Any Hong Kong Wikipedia Editors May Be Extradited If the Bill Adopted.


For the Statement made by Wikimedia Community User Group Hong Kong, please click here.

For more professional points of view, please read the following document made by Hong Kong Bar Association:

--だ*ぜ (talk) 15:52, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

I do not think this wiki community will be receptive to your request. Where we have lobbied before, it was directly pertinent to values important to Wikipedia but only after great internal discussion. The protests in Hong Kong are not particularly pertinent. There are likely organizations who would be more receptive, but this is not one of them. --Izno (talk) 16:41, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
I believe the Italian Wiipedia protested against a proposed law which didnt technically affect the site, but could have exposed the users in Italy to legal issues if they contributed. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:43, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
EN.WP is not IT.WP. Feel free to research how difficult it was for the wiki to get behind a blackout for SOPA. I'm fairly certain we've had no other community-initiated effort. --Izno (talk) 23:55, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
It is true that relatively few HK editors are primarily on EN, and few EN editors are from HK. On ITwiki the vast majority are from Italy, so ITwiki would be affected more severely. However I believe an unqualified xxwiki is not yywiki us not the greatest argument; each wiki should consider what happens on other wikis and learn from them. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:05, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • No... one of our core policies is that we maintain a NEUTRAL point of view. We should not take ANY stand on outside political issues. Blueboar (talk) 21:13, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Indeed Wikipedia is to not advocate for a particular political philosophy or ideology; we should not endorse a particular political movement. At the same time the foundation itself criticized the block on English Wikipedia in the Mainland. Based on what the foundation itself has posted, NPOV doesnt mean that a project cannot advocate for its own survival in a given country or territory. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:15, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • I think the best we can do is to provide an informative and well-documented article, currently featured on our Main Page. – Teratix 00:17, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • The only reason we should shut down/blackout is to protest laws and bills which pose an existential threat to Wikipedia. The Hong Kong bill does not. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Bori! 00:18, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia is not a platform for political campaigns. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:10, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • As Jéské says - our shutdowns (or whatever) exist to protect Wikipedia and our other projects. As well as breaking our Neutrality requirements if we acted otherwise, a more pragmatic approach would say we'd never be normal if we acted against every immoral law (which this is) - I do rely more on the first argument as "Perfection is the enemy of Good" applies. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:19, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
    I understand that it wouldn't make sense to go after every immoral law. Instead the phrasing/focus could be specifically on access to Wikipedia and ability to contribute to it instead of on a political movement itself: "We don't want X law to be used to punish Wikipedians / prevent them from contributing" WhisperToMe (talk) 10:53, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • A shutdown is probably too much, the extradition bill is not in direct contradiction to wikipedia core values let alone existential threat. If we're going to shut down like that, soon enough we won't be opening. However, a shutdown specifically target for users access from HK should be ok. I'm not sure if it's technically possible though. Viztor (talk) 18:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
    • It is possible to give site notices based on IP address. One factor is that most Hong Kongers use the Chinese Wikipedia more often. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:44, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

removing rfc template[edit]

Hello to you at gathered at the village pump. The request for comment I posted on the talk page of the New Albion elicited no responses. So I made certain changes to the article. As such, I do believe it is proper to remove the rfc template; however, the instructions are a little vague as to how this should be done. My inclination is to edit the talk page by deleting the template (which is encapsulated within brackets at the top of the page) and then note my actions with a comment. Is this correct? If not, what should I consider? Kind regards to all. Hu Nhu (talk) 23:54, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

@Hu Nhu: - I'm not sure of the answer, this may be more suited as a question at the WP:HELPDESK Nosebagbear (talk) 13:13, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
@Nosebagbear: Thanks very much. I'll contact them.